> Do you occasionnally have any reference to how these people feel after the surgery?
Not really, no.. Everyone is so happy to focus on the evidence that we are getting two different persona there, that not much is told about feeling.. (Of course, the interaction is mostly with the "left-brained one".)
Do you have any reference to how they feel?
> Can you suggest a test verifying that a particular device supports subjectivity?
I am afraid, the smallest test is the one I described, when I am also connected to it in such a way as to share subjectivity, and "if my biological brain goes to sleep, the locus of subjectivity would just move there".
I wish there would be something less than that, but verification of subjectivity seems to require first-person observation, so it seems that one needs a coupling, and then one needs to sufficiently suppress the activity of one's brain, by getting sufficiently sleepy, while not losing the coupling, or something like that.
Basically, we are trying to find a way "to look from the inside", and also to make sure that the impressions do not come from our own cortex.
> For connecting two brain, I mean physical connection. Mice first, of course :) This is very far away.
I am sure we can connect mice brains today :-) The quality of connection and whether the results would be interesting -- that I am less certain about :-) (Some of the latest techniques with genetically engineered mice, such as optical control inside the brain, are quite remarkable -- I would even say there are dozens of ways we can physically connect them today; the question is, "are there interesting ways among those?")
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Date: 2010-03-29 07:55 pm (UTC)I am quite agnostic on this..
> Do you occasionnally have any reference to how these people feel after the surgery?
Not really, no.. Everyone is so happy to focus on the evidence that we are getting two different persona there, that not much is told about feeling.. (Of course, the interaction is mostly with the "left-brained one".)
Do you have any reference to how they feel?
> Can you suggest a test verifying that a particular device supports subjectivity?
I am afraid, the smallest test is the one I described, when I am also connected to it in such a way as to share subjectivity, and "if my biological brain goes to sleep, the locus of subjectivity would just move there".
I wish there would be something less than that, but verification of subjectivity seems to require first-person observation, so it seems that one needs a coupling, and then one needs to sufficiently suppress the activity of one's brain, by getting sufficiently sleepy, while not losing the coupling, or something like that.
Basically, we are trying to find a way "to look from the inside", and also to make sure that the impressions do not come from our own cortex.
> For connecting two brain, I mean physical connection. Mice first, of course :) This is very far away.
I am sure we can connect mice brains today :-) The quality of connection and whether the results would be interesting -- that I am less certain about :-) (Some of the latest techniques with genetically engineered mice, such as optical control inside the brain, are quite remarkable -- I would even say there are dozens of ways we can physically connect them today; the question is, "are there interesting ways among those?")